'Further downstream from here, a large party of r kartipa ambushed a group of our people. What was the reason for that? There was no reason. They hadn't killed any cattle; they were just out hunting kangaroos. But the kartipa were killing people all around here in every direction; they used to ambush them. Like the story of how people were shot at Wirrilu, this was told to me and I'm passing it on. People went running for their lives in the same way as at Wirrilu — and they were good runners. (Introduction)'